***************************** Article Separation ****************************** I have been reading over the board and there is a lot of talk dealing with drug tests and the like. I hope to clear up a few myths by sending this letter to whoever reads it. NORML writes a piece of literature on the subject of beating piss tests and I have a copy. IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO WASH YOURSELF OUT, drink lots of fluids and use diuretics like coffee, cranberry juice, and beer. Vinegar doesn't work and neither does phenylpropanolamine (the active ingredient in Dexatrim). The night before the test, drink as much fluids as you can stand and piss in the morning because morning urine is the "dirtiest". Prepare for the test by drinking more fluids and boost with diuretics. You can color your piss yellow with for a few hours with vitamin b-2 (found in b-complex vitamins). Use a 50- or 100-milligram dose. IF YOU HAVE A SHORT NOTICE, take an 80-milligram dose of prescription diuretic Lasix (furosemide), take a hefty drink of water, piss two or three times and take the test. WARNING!!! Diuretics can be harmful to people with kidney dysfunctions, pregnant women and diabetics. DRUG SCREENS, drugs which mask traces of drugs in urine, are undocumented although many claim sucess. These might be unreliable, but I'm putting them in here anyway. | Zinc Sulfate, available from pharmasists and in a health product Zinc |Challenge, should be taken twice, once the night before and once a few hours |before the test in 250-milligram doses. WARNING- DON'T TAKE ANYMORE THAN THIS |BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL TOXIC EFFECTS. Take this in the morning when loading up |on fluids for the test. Also, avoid taking in too many solids because it may |dampen the effect of the chemical. | Two products, Test Free and Naturally Klean, claim to clear any drug |testing for a few hours after taking. The companies recommend abstaing for a |day or two and drinking lots of fluids. Both companies claim to have FDA safe |ingredients although they are secretive about the formula. | You can contact the companies @ | Test Free- Zydot Unlimited Inc., Box 9485 Tulsa OK 74157 | (918) 747-2400 | Naturally Klean- Houston Enterprises, PO Box 27776, Tempe AZ 85285 (602) 968-0773 DOPING PISS TESTS, is a last resort method if you are really desparate. Abbie Hoffman has rigged a way to substitute clean urine in the test in his book "Stealing This Urine Test" but I don't have a copy of the book. You can spike the test with certain chemicals, but this only works on the standard EMIT test and not on RIA or GC/MS tests. 6-10 drops of bleach detergent or blood, a few bleach or Draino crystals concealed under the fingernails should work. These methods are going to effect the urine noticably and could be detected.4 I have taken this information from literature release by NORML and it should be reliable, but I won't take the blame if it isn't. **************************** Article Separation ******************************* Well, my friend passed his drug test and got the job. He just drank 2 quarts of water the morning of the test. The test required him to produce 60 cc of urine, and the nurse gave him four minutes and made sure the temp of the sample was between 90-98 degrees. Also she noted that his specimin was almost clear. She was careful not to allow soap in the bathroom while he was in there, and the toilet water was blue colored. He had smoked pot on two occasions within a week and a half of the test. He is not a regular smoker. thanks to all for the help, and I hope this info helps somebody else out. ***************************** Article Separation ****************************** % 100% * (time 0 days, 100%) halflife THC concentration = 7 days T %THC means delta % THC metabolites H 90% in bloodstream. C 80% 21 - 28 days'll do-ya 70% 60% 50% * (7days,50%) 40% 30% * (14days, 25%) 20% * (21days,12.5%) 10% * (6.75%) 0% * 3.375 * 1.687% 0 days 7days 14days 21days 28days 35days 42days (time) Internet jprice@jove.cs.pdx.edu "Justice is incidental to law and order." SCUD: 45 31 25 N 122 40 30 W - J. Edgar Hoover Unity not uniformity | NBC = GE "Reading musses up my mind." - Henry Ford ***************************** Article Separation ****************************** Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 12:10:21 -0600 (CST) From: Farfo Subject: How to Piss and Pass Sender: ALCOHOL & DRUG STUDIES Message-id: <01GXGP2PBBHE8ZGCO3@YMIR.CLAREMONT.EDU> I found the majority of this information through contact with NORML in Washington. IT is summarized, organized (mildly), and reprinted here without permission. -------------------------------------------------------------------- How to Piss and Pass - - ----=-=-<=======>-=-=----- - - * Washing your system - How much water and for how long? In an emergency you can start drinking water as soon as one hour before the test, 4-6 hours is recommended. There is no known universal dosage, but you should be urinating so often it is ridiculous. One drawback is that watery urine is produced. Sometimes urine is rejected on the basis of its color alone. Taking B-complex vitamins will help keep the urine yellow. * Drinking vinegar does not work. * Urinaid is one additive that works every time. Pour the contents of the vail into your sample during the collection procedure. Don't drink it! This method will not work on RIA - it won't pass military tests. * Visine does not work. * Powdered urine from Byrd Labs works fine for those not sure about the integrity of a friends sample. Prepare ahead of time, directions are included. * Niacin and Golden Seal have shown encouragement, but they are inconsistant. This urinator would not chance it. * Don't rely on the ibuprofen alibi. Anyone who has taken enough ibuprofen to cause a false positive above the 100ng cut-off (impossible) can rest assured: The GC/MS confirmation tests will confirm that it is indeed ibuprofen. * The length of time or a THC positive varies. The average time for the regular user is less than two weeks. Water is a good method for these people, as insurance. An infrequent user should not have to worry after a couple of days. * Substitution is the most interesting and challenging approach. IF you really hate the Bladder Cops, this can be quite gratifying. If you are using a friend's urine, be sure you know what drugs they have taken over the last month. There is no definitive test for amphetamines, OTC remidies such as Contac and Alka-Seltzer are notorious. If you don't list it, most any drug can get you into just as much trouble. For any substitution be prepared to give 60cc. Also be sure it falls within the 91-97 degree temperature range. Most often the test containers have a tape on the side indicating the samples temp. Whatever the container, it must open quietly. Toilet paper is a convienient, provided, insulator. Many collections require that you change into a `gown.' By using a vial or condom taped to the inner thigh, you can get around the gown as well as the temperature requirement. Most importantly - practice! Practice until you have made it a fine art. a woman with a shirt can fake urination even with an observer in the room. A man with his back to an observer can do just as well. Abbie Hoffman suggested a few drops of urine on the seat or on ones shoe as an added measure of authenticity. * If you can't pass the test - screw over the chain of custody. This involves safety seals, signatures and treating your urine like serious stuff. Act nervous. Sign the papers differently in different places. Initial the wrong place and then scribble it out. If the official is not paying attention, mark in the `do not mark' areas. These papers are reviewed before analysis, if they are inconsistant, your sample will be voided. * If you fail the test, Raise hell. A urine test gone wrong can make a passive person rabid. Don't take it to court. It is virtually impossible to win a case, especially in pre-employment. All positive samples are kept in the labs for two years. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Urinaid and Powered Urine are both available through Butterfield-Jay Foundation, P.O. Box 57214, Oklahoma City, OK 73157. For more information call (405) 521-URINE. A machine will answer. Calls will be returned collect. Two samples for $25 or ten for $100, for both products. NORML operates a Drug Testing & Information Hotline. The charge is $2.95 per minute. 900-97-NORML =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=