Newsgroups: alt.drugs Well. Datura species (aka Jimson Weed) can accomplish a separate reality unattainable by anyother hallucinogen. Me and my friends have explored the powers of this ancient herb. Let me 1st tell how I got involved with it. I must have been in my 14s when I first got interested in altered states of consiscous. I browsed through every book on psychedelics and related stuff I could lay my hands at. It was a X-mas time a year later when I made this incredible founding at local mart. A live tree DATURA was there staring at me. I thought this is a once in a life time change to me. So I made exit with a $4 off shoot in my bag. It took quite a while to get experimented since the relatively slow growth of the tree species. So a year passed and near X-mas (again) my paryers were answered. Small bulb-like flower 'spikes' began to apper. Over the next 2 weeks they grew longer at the end them being about 20cm long with beutifully shaped trumpet like white flowers with a delicate scent. I snipped the flowers off and dried them as I had heard my friend who had just got back from Brasil said they had done some brew of the flowers. The trip I'm finally about to describe (sorry about the intro) was induced by dried flowers of an 'Angel's Trumpet' (Datura suaveolens,). It took place during the evening and night of April 30th which in the country I come from is a national holiday called Vappu. I prepared the brew by boiling abou6t (I can't recall the exact amount) 3 or 4 dried flowers. The volume of the brew was reduced by boiling it sightly until it appeared on a mug as a dark tea (i.e. it was impossible to see to bottom of the mug). Since this mixture had a repulsive taste I decided to heat the mug in a microwave oven prior to ingestion ( I think when liquid is warm enouh it will numb the taste neurons in your mouth.) So down it went. After my ingesting the 'stuff' we (me and my pal) headed for a nearby hill top to drink some beer. After -1 hr the influence came. At 1st I had difficulties with distance perception. When tried to grab a bottle 6of beer it seemed to be farther than I could reach. I attempted to move towards it with a consequnce of falling on my ass from the bench we were sitting. Now I realized that my legs were fairly immobilized. My mouth was was dry as a vagina of a 70 yearold granny , sippin the beer made it ache even more. Then I don't know what the fuck hit me but I felt the pull of the city ( I make a remark here. The hill we were on was a park area just 1km from down town of this 30000pop town I was living). I made all I possibly could that state of mind to myself from making a head first dive as I run down the not so steep side of the hill. Finally down by the street I had the hardest time of keeping straight. I don't know who the fuck I was trying to fool since I got on my knees once every nanosecond. Now after finding my body time after time lying on the street with no control I lost my files. (This amnesia is typical for most Datura trips). All I remember today for those next 2-3hrs was that I was bound walking to the harbour where there was an amusement park. Unfortunately I never made it there. Instead I wound up on a street trying to tear with my nails bleeding fish-shaped cuts of black sand paper. I recall my trying to sell nonexistent giant roll of sand paper to passer-bys. Stopping police car was the only thing that woke me to a consiscous state. They told me to move from the road I was kneeling unable to tear those fishes up. Thanks to the loosened control for the holiday I wasn't taken to the precinct. Next I find me seeing a street turning into a dark runway. The last part of my trip was accompanied with hallucinations of my friends faces on every other person who I encountered. After 4-5hrs from the ingestion I was back on earth not remembering a thing what had happened (that seem not have bothered me back then). But when the next noon saw me opening my eyes all little by little started coming into my mind. In the end of the day I rememberd most of the things that had happened to me during that odd night. I even recalled of handing out my driver's license to the cops so I couldn't go any bar to get more 'drunk'. So as you have seen the trip is heavy duty with some or no ability to tell real from imaginary. Today after a few trips with flowers and leaves I'm preparing for a new encounter with the SEEDS. Since the tree varieties don't produce seeds without a partner of opposite sex the small weeds will. I ordered some Datura 'fleur lilac' ( stramonium, I guess) seeds from Thompson&Morgan seed catalog. Now I have enough seeds for tens of trips.