Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Drammamine Tablets..
Message-ID: <CFJ4LI.5z@spdcc.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 00:12:54 GMT

In article <00974979.61C1BA04@pomona.claremont.edu> agaluhn@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
>>It is diphenhydramine, an antihistamine.  Sold as an allergy medication,
>>and a sleep aid.  
>
>(Description of diphenhydramine experience deleted.)
>
>Actuall, motion sickness pills (garden variety
>Dramamine) are dimenhydrinate.  Sorta kinda different from diphenhydramine...

Dimenhydrinate is the 8-chlorotheophyllinate salt of diphenhydramine.
The only important difference is potency: 50mg of dimenhydrinate is
equivalent to 25mg of diphenhydramine hydrochloride.  Same drug.

It's still stupid to try to get high from overdosing on antihistamines.
It's unpleasant and potentially dangerous.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com

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From: tiscione@trident.usacs.rutgers.edu (Jason Tiscione)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drammamine Tablets..
Message-ID: <Oct.25.20.57.40.1993.18059@trident.usacs.rutgers.edu>
Date: 26 Oct 93 00:57:41 GMT

edith@unm.edu (peter menning) writes:

>Was talking late one night at a Dennys..  When i overherd someone at the
>table next to us start talking about how he started triping from taking 9 or
>10 motion sickness tabs..  <Diphenhydromene <I know i am killing the spelling>
>I am curious,  Is it really true or is it a new U/L?   And what would the side >effects be?

It is diphenhydramine, an antihistamine.  Sold as an allergy medication,
and a sleep aid.  It's more expensive as a sleep aid, even though it's the
same formulation- I guess they figure people will pay more to be sleepy than
they will to ease up their asthma attacks.  Or maybe it's a "sin tax" thing?
Took 250 mg once (a reckless experiment- but 60mg and 125mg on previous
nights didn't seem to do anything- and I was curious) and I didn't like it
at all.
(That's equivalent to ten 25 mg tablets.)  There's a feeling like, uh, you're
slipping away from yourself, you can't control what happens to you, etc.
All I wanted to do, for some reason, was read, read, read, but the next
day I didn't remember anything that happened on 20 pages.  (Useless.)
Hallucination has been reported but if I recall correctly, they aren't the
kind you'd want to have! (e.g. Thinking someone has been in the room who
hasn't, believing that you have to do chores that you've already done,
thinking that it's Tuesday when it's Saturday, etc.)  Not beautiful
spiral patterns on the wall or audio reverbations or anything LSD-ish, so
if you're looking for an "LSD replacement", speaking from personal
experience, I don't recommend diphenhydramine at all.

                                          Jason

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: HARPETH1@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (_VTA9390:)
Subject:  Methedrine
Message-ID: <1994Jan18.101339.11371@news.vanderbilt.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 10:13:39 GMT

       I've posted this before with no response:  Does anyone know what
methedrine is?  I guess not.  I am assuming that it's some type of meth-
amphetamine analog.  A friend says he has access to this drug and intends to
try it soon.  I just thought I'd ask one last time for his benefit.

       On a different note, I've seen several postings regarding Jimson Weed
(Datura Stramonium I believe).  I was always curious about this plant, but
the effects described sound similar to Gravol (Dramamine), which I HAVE
tried.  I for one would class it more as a deleriant than a hallucinogen.
The trip started with a nice stoned feeling, but quickly changed.  When
staring at any white object (ceilings, and even cups or cupped hands) I
noticed a strange clear gellatin-like substance that seemed to jiggle and
spread towards me (looked a lot like the alien in the Predator movies).
While doing LSD or psilocybin, I have always been able to tell reality from
hallucinations.  This is not the case with Dramamine.  Several times I car-
ried on conversations with individuals before discovering they were non-
existant.  I saw people and objects that were not there as well.  Perhaps the
worst aspect of the trip was the auditory part.  I constantly heard my name
being called, and sound is magnified to a very uncomfortable level.  Speech
(even from myself) was not only loud and difficult, but VERY slurred.  Com-
munication was difficult due to the fact that I would forget what I was talk-
ing about in mid-sentence, and would finish most sentences off by saying "Uh,
nevermind...I forgot."  The amount of paranoia that prevailed throughout the
trip was unbearable: especially after I saw my brother rise out of a pile of
clothes in the floor to tell me that my father (who happens to be the head
of a drug task force) was calling me.  Maybe all of this was due to the fact
that I was alone for the majority of this experience (nightmare).  Definate-
ly a one time experience for me.  Not recomended for the weak of heart or
mind.  Especially at that dosage: 24 tablets!

                                               Jamey




