Pie Tasting

BZP and TFMPP likened with MDMA-type drugs

Substances: BZP, TFMPP, GHB, Marijuana

11:50PM
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        125mg of BZP HCl was measured and put in one gelcap, 75mg of TFMPP
monohydrochloride was measured into another. Today is the last day of the
Aztec calendar - the prophesied end of the world. Well... that may not be
the case, but, it does promise to be an interesting night. I'm a little
nervous - its the first time I've done something *totally* new in a long
long time. New chemical family. My friend tried 150mg of BZP and 75mg of
TFMPP two days ago. He weighs a bit more than I do, so I adjusted down the
BZP dose. He also said he would've taken more TFMPP next time, so I'm
leaving the dose of that the same.
        Piperazines certainly look different from tryptamines or
phenethylamines. The BZP is a white, fluffy yet clumpy, sparkly powder.
Looks very much like the wet snow you get when its just barely below
freezing. The TFMPP is not sparkly, really... clumpy off-white powdery
substance. Both have a sort of waxiness to them - something about how they
reflect light. I've had them for months, but kept putting them off for
other things. My friend's very positive experience brought my curiosity to
a peak, however - especially the comment that he found it more enjoyable
than 5-MeO-DIPT.

11:55PM
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        BZP down the hatch!

11:59PM
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        TFMPP down the hatch!

12:24AM
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        I'm feeling "something" now, which feels sort of like the first
alert of phenethylamines, I think. I did have 2g of GHB and a little
cannabis earlier, but this is definately more than that. Too undefined yet
at this point to describe.

12:35AM
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        I think this is going to be a pretty strong trip. I'm begining to
feel a sense of warmth over my whole body, very much like MDMA. I'm
getting alot of yawns, something my friend also got when it began to work
on him. My visual field is altered... like very low dose mescaline,
perhaps. Sounds seem altered, but I'm not quite sure how, yet.

12:50AM
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        Very much like MDMA indeed! At least, physically. I feel very 
warm and cozy. There is much more going on visually than from MDMA. Colors
are very bright. Things look very crisp. Music is definately enhanced,
similar to the music enhancement from MDMA. Mentally, there's nothing
spectacular going on. It is similar to, but much milder and sublter than
MDMA. Physically though... very much like MDMA. If I'd taken it without
knowing, I would've probably thought I'd taken a low dose of some MDMA
class drug. But there are noticable differences, and I think I would be
able to distinguish them now.

1:15AM
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        WOW! This is amazing. VERY much like MDEA, but with even less
emotional and spiritual opening. It is mostly a physical thing. I feel
very warm and cozy. My skin feels very alive. I imagine this would be a
spectacular sexual enhancer! I got none of the nausea my friend got. In
fact, aside from an MDMA-like thirst, and some mild jaw clench, I can see
no negatives at all. It is much less of a stimulant than MDMA class drugs,
and in fact, I feel somewhat dreamy like from mescaline... like I could
sleep, although I doubt thats a realistic option at this point hehehe!
Yawning and stretching are amazing. Breathing feels highly erotic. There
is much more of a visual aspect than with MDMA-like drugs. Colors are all
shifted slightly towards the pink, so that white looks almost salmon.
There are mild mescaline-like spiderwebby overlays on everything. The
visuals are much like a low dose of a mescaline or 2C-T-2 type drug. Some
MDMA-like fluttervision due to nystagmus as well. Interesting blend there.
However, the physical is obviously the focus of this particular 
combination.

1:45AM
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        Things are still building. This is great stuff. Don't feel like
writing much right now... Things haven't changed in quality, but intensity
has gone up a notch or two.

2:00AM
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        I'm at a little over 2 hours into this now. I think I've reached
the peak effects. Very nice! A subtler version of MDMA, with mild visuals.
No spiritual or emotional depth, at least not that I've noticed in this
context. I imagine it could lead to some very open and deep conversations
in the right company, however. I feel very lucid and free. The prominent
effects are the suffused warmth and coziness, similar to MDMA or, even
more so, MDEA... and the visuals. The visuals are very mild and remind me
of low dose mescaline. Spidery overlays, bright colors, sharpened depth,
halos surrounding bright objects (including the white letters on my
computer monitor, making reading a little awkward at times). I am writing
this mainly for the purpose of documentation... my heart isn't really in
it at the moment. Too focused of an activity. I've described the key
points pretty well anyway... I shall add to this later in the trip as
warranted, but for now I have better things to do.

2:40AM
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        Perhaps I jumped the gun a little when I thought I'd peaked. It
did go up a notch there. Also, I may have been in error to think that it
lacks depth. It has depth, but it is in a different way from MDMA or
mescaline, the two things this most remembles. Those are somewhat
misleading comparisons. This is something else... a fundamental difference
in nature and focus. I'm not quite sure yet what the strenghts of this
combination are on the mental level, but there are undoubtedly
applications for this that are not immediately apparant. One could easily
focus on just the physical aspect and completely miss the deeper side, if
they were not careful or did not wish to take it that direction. The term
"clarity" comes to mind, when trying to describe the mental aspect of this
trip. Also, a sort of meditative quietness. Calm. Centeredness.

3:15AM
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        This stuff is quite a bit more psychedelic than I originally felt.
Similarities to phenethylamines are amazing, but this is something rather
different, when you look more closely. I'm noticing rather extreme time
dilation, although its not apparant unless I look at the clock. Writing is
difficult, because if I stop for a second, I get distracted and forget
that I was trying to write, until I see this window open and think "Oh
yeah..."

3:55AM
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        Noticably descending now... but still very nice. I am realizing in
retrospect that I was quite a bit further out than I thought at the time.
I don't think I'll truly appreciate this until I've had a night to sleep
on it.

5:30AM
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        I have alot of the visual effects still, and some of the physical
sensations. Things have settled down A LOT though. I could easily sleep,
and in fact am a little tired even. The come-down from this is very
phenethylamine-like. Gradual, and lingering, with the visual effects
lasting all the way through. I think I shall see if GHB cushions the tail
end as nicely as it does with phenethylamines, and conclude this report.

6:15AM
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        Well, I'm still quite wide awake. Moreso than I was an hour ago,
even. The GHB seems to have had the effect of bringing the trip back, much
like it does with MDMA or mescaline. I *could* sleep, I'm sure... but the
desire to is not there. I think, perhaps, a little more GHB in a little
while, then sleep will seem more appealing.

7:00AM
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        The past halg hour or so, I've felt mostly just a stimulant
effect. Some mild visuals, but most of what I feel now, beyond the
stimulation, is the GHB... I could definately sleep now, and in fact I'm
yawning now. That second dose of GHB, when I do it, will put me right out.
This has been quite an enjoyable night!

7:53AM
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        What do you know, still awake! Still pretty alert. Sleep would be
very possible, but I've been busy doing other stuff. If I wanted to, and
had not done that second dose of GHB, I think I could stay up for a long
time still. The second GHB dose, however, is making sleep seem to be a
rather attractive option.

Afterword
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        It was after 9:30 before I went to bed. Fell asleep rather quickly
when I did (with some assistance from GHB). Slept until around 6PM. Woke
up and felt rather spacey, like the day after a high dose acid trip. I
found that when I smoked cannabis, I felt somewhat piperaziney again,
even having some mild visual alterations. I became tired early, and was
asleep by 3AM. I would not recommend using this drug the night before a
busy day... and I would probably advise taking it earlier than midnight. I
will definately try this again sometime, though.