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Subject: Re: Extraction of DMT from Mimosa Hostilis
From: alkaloid@nym.lycaeum.org
Date: August 27, 1997 at 18:24:44
In Reply to: Re: Extraction of DMT from Mimosa Hostilis posted by august@nym.lycaeum.org on August 27, 1997 at 16:02:44:


> Let me see... that would be probably beyond the scope of most kitchen 
> chemists, maybe not if you could clarify the procedure of producing and 
> bubbling the hcl gas. 

  I think this can be accomplished with H2SO4 (car battery electrolyte)
  and NaCl. Would require a flask, stopper and glass tubing. The salt is
  placed in the flask and the acid is added to this. HCL is generated and
  travels through the tubing down into your non-polar/DMT solution.
  This isn't too difficult for kitchen chemistry but one would need to
  work out how much acid/salt to use and of course breathing HCl can't be
  good for you. :) 

> Another thought is wouldn't that result in the DMT hcl, instead
> of vaporizable freebase DMT?

  Yes, you would get the hydrochloride. I don't know what the melting point
  of this is but for the picrate it's 169.5 - 170 C so vaporizing would
  probably be out of the question. The hydrochloride also pulls moisture 
  out of the air. Injection or ingestion with MAOI would work though. 

  I was just pointing out a way to avoid the buildup of non-polar vapors.
  Making the hydrochloride is safer in some ways (you will get HCl so this
  isn't completely safe) but smoking the product is another matter.
 
> In response to the difficulties, I believe it was the emulsion layer that
> was giving most of the previous problems with the M.h. extraction.  The
> alkaloids seemed to be locked up in that gel emulsion. 

  I think an emulsion can be broken by adding detergent or possibly making
  the solution more ionic by adding salt but I'm not completely sure about
  this. 




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