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« on: November 12, 2009, 04:39:17 PM »

  In a few days I may possibly be partaking on my first mushroom trip. My friend (allegedly) purchased them from a vendor but she doesn't know what species they are. They have long thin stocks, and small heads, brown in color. Anybody know what species they are, and what the effects may be(fictionally)? Also where best would it be to consume these(if I i do, but this is entirely fictional)? At home? Outside under a blanket? Perhaps I should make them into a savory tea XD? Anything crazy to look at? And should there be music present? Thank you Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 04:51:49 PM »

This person who isn't actually you will know once are there. I can't recommend anything, since I've never actually used any illegal or legal hallucinogens, however, from what I understand outdoors is deff the way to go, ESP at sunset.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2009, 06:02:22 PM »

how and where are you most comfortable?  but the outdoors are great if you get a chance to appreciate them
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 06:16:48 PM »

Just don't over think it. A psychedelic experience should be done when the time is right. I've heard of fantastic experiences in a wide rage of conditions. Don't expect anything. It is ironic that the most anticipated events are usually the least noteworthy. So whatever you're most excited about, try to forget.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 06:38:42 PM »

If one were going to ingest shrooms somewhere they're legal it would be a good idea to research them first. Erowid, our own Leda and the forum here are all good places to start as they offer a wealth of hard info and trip reports.

It would also be advisable to have a friend present who is trusted and sober.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 07:33:50 PM »

There's a lot you have to feel out for yourself as it comes to you. There is no perfect scenario that can be planned. Forward said this pretty well, I think. A lot of people do seem to prefer tripping outdoors, myself included, but this is not guaranteed, of course. Maybe you could read up on trip reports if you want to determine common reactions to particular situations.

Being open to the overwhelming force of mystery, and all possibilities contained within it, will be very useful. When you try to force an ideal upon a state which resists manipulation with "bad trips" you will repeatedly run into a brick wall. Go with the flow, follow your bliss, do what you're comfortable with, and don't forget to wipe your ass on the way out of the existential bathroom.

There isn't much one can say for someone about to walk through that door, so just imagine all of the trippers, seers, and sages of the world waiting silently for you on the other side with warm, open arms. You have to find your own way, but so does everyone else, so we learn empathy for others in this life-long journey.

Have fun, klokwork. Mushrooms adore one with a light heart.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2009, 07:39:17 PM »

it doesn't sound like you are all that sure of your source. I'd do anything I could to identify the shroomage before committing to eating them.

However, once the healthiness of the shroom is verified try to arrange the following:

privacy - it's a pleasant luxury to not deal with strangers or "downer" types in your first trips.

quiet - it's nice to be able to be alone with your thoughts, you'll get some insights and entertainments you can't pre-imagine, most especially if you aren't being distracted by environmental background noise.

music - in direct contradiction to what I just said. your favorite music is a fine lubricant to help you slide into hyperspace.

have fun. and you WILL owe us a trip report upon your return.

also, this works for me: don't eat anything for several hours before downing the shrooms. forty five minutes later eat something light but full of energy building blocks. my favorite is boston baked beans. something about the combination of sugar and beans really sets the shrooms off. drink plenty of liquids with the beans.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 07:47:55 PM »

Sounds like your friend may have found some cyans, if so they are very lucky.  I think they would probably be most effective chewed and swallowed.  I've never had much luck with teas beyond threshold effects though, but I have had others tell me of contradicting experiences...  For the first time it would probably be best to be with a close friend or two in a some what secluded environment so that they can enjoy the experience and the company of their friends without having any worries weighing in the back of their minds-- so that it is easier to let them lose their selves in the experience I guess.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 07:54:51 PM »

You and your friend should buy some lube, a double ended dildo, and some strawberry chapstick . As soon as the trip kicks in, you'll know what to do, submit and let it in, you know you want too. wink
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2009, 08:38:22 PM »

Needed things (IMHO)

1) Tripsitter (preferably experienced who doesn't think its funny to mess with y'all)
2) Cellphones turned off
3) Outdoors or a comfortable place where you know you wont be disturbed
4) A variety of music, fruits and simple toys
5) A positive mindset
6) Ganja (depending on preference)
7) Water (bottled is easiest for some)
Cool No TV regardless of what someone says about "Just having to watch x tripping" it almost always sucks.
9) Enjoy!  grin


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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2009, 08:53:14 PM »

Tripping is easy, ease up, let loose, live a little.

Be a man, take your first step alone, mom and dad ain't here buddy.

Have a sense of humour, don't worry, be happy, and if you don't feel happy, don't worry.

Relax, the old you sucked anyway, think about it.

If you were warm you'll be a little colder now, thats called reality, your growing up.

Don't get too serious, don't be in awe, we're all in this togeather, ain't no saints baby, just liars.

Your you, ain't no one else gonna do it, so do it, and deal with it, and most importantly, be a man.

Be real, honest, brave, open, and look it right in the eye, because you are it and it is you.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2009, 09:16:32 PM »

To paraphrase Octorex:
"And the truth shall set you free, but try to be cool, ok?"
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2009, 12:15:32 AM »

Jack's advice on not eating for a few hours prior is right on too - a full stomach delays the onset and prolongs the comedown.
Grind them up and eat them as is or put them into some OJ and down it. Choking down whole spit slick shrooms results in that time release factor mentioned above.
I really don't know about chowing on a big bowl of beans forty five minutes in though - that's right when things start rolling and food is the weirdest concept in the world to me right then.
Stay hydrated though, and have some healthy munchies at hand for the comedown.


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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2009, 02:23:43 AM »

Mix it with melted dark chocolate.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2009, 05:40:15 AM »

Like the more literal form of taking a trip, you must pack first. I would suggest lighting incense, meditating, and otherwise collecting and calming yourself before or just after dosing. This will put you in a good place for integrating the massive influx of new information flooding your CNS.

I used to collect aesthetically serene and pleasing images in my mind the morning before a trip. I would spend hours observing the play of sunlight, the leaves blowing in the wind, and the play of animals. The more ritualistically minded suggest that one also set an intention for the journey. Be open to a change in plans, though.

Has anyone found The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary helpful for psychedelic navigation? I've tried to read it a few times before trips, but each time I'd start thinking that since I already read The Tibetan Book of the Dead, which the previous book is based on, and made my own metaphors, it seemed excessive. It's good to know how to soften up the ego when needed.

And yeah, keep the body light, or free from heavy foods, because it could anchor you to unpleasant body load and limit your exploration. When you really get off, hunger probably won't be a big issue anymore.

Make sure you have the time after a trip to rest, recuperate, and reintegrate. Don't get too wrapped up in the idea that all of your problems are now solved and that you'll never get sucked into the mundane and dramatic aspects of life. Despite how it may seem at first, you are still human, and THIS IS GOOD. It's okay to make changes, though. You may now have a better idea than ever about what is good for you and what isn't.

Be patient. It's okay to be in awe. It's okay to see things in a new light. It's okay to question your previous assumptions about reality. It's okay to question others. But be patient. We're all in this together.
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 09:28:03 AM »

wow Hyperspatial...that was incredibly well said, I'll definitely take that into mind before taking my first trip. Thank you.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2009, 01:10:53 PM »

Seriously trips aint shit, media tricks us into thinking they are.
If you are hesistant about it, don't do it.
First time I dropped was a microdot, in a tent, at a dance party.
I didnt know what to expect or what would happen.
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Its hard to tell how you will handle a trip with out knowing you.
You can prepare as much as you want but without knowing you it is irresponsible to encourage you to do so. For instance.

Do you have a lot of friends?
Do you social integrate easy?
Do you have good or bad family relationships?
Do you get on with your dad?
How was school for you?
Do you have any persecution complexes?
How old are you physically?
How old are you mentally?
What is you sexual preference?
Are you sure?
Do you eat good food or bad?
Do you exercise regularly?
Are you happy?
What do you expect after your trip?
Whats you schooling level?
Are you religious?
Do you have a strong sense of right and wrong?
Are you funky?
Are you racist?
Are you sexist?
Do you have a sense of humour?
Are you brave?
Or are you a coward?

These are the types of question you need to know the answers too, if you wanna get anything from your trip, fuck set setting and all of those controlled environments, if you are comfortable with all your answers to the above, take the trip now you are ready. If you need controlled environments, then you are acting alittle too saintly, and are alittle scared imo, trips are easy things to an easy mind,
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2009, 04:16:04 PM »

 They have long thin stocks, and small heads, brown in color. Anybody know what species they are, and what the effects may be(fictionally)?

they sound like cubensis that were picked before the veil broke, which is preferable.  Supposedly the psilocin:psilocybin ratio declines after this point, and the fungus becomes tougher and the taste gets worse.  I'd definitely echo a lot of what was said here previously, cell phone OFF and outdoors is magical. 

And tripping should be taken seriously, just don't stress about it.  And sometimes inner focus is needed to bring out the full effects.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2009, 05:17:40 PM »

One thing about the cell phone. This is pretty important. Don't even consider leaving it on. Turn it off and hide it somewhere. No good can come out of using the phone.

Your thought process will be something like this: oh, it's my mom. Should I answer it? It might be an emergency. What if it's my dad. What if my mom is in the hospital. What if she had a heart attack. Omg, my mom might be is trouble. What if it's my little sister. Maybe she's sick. I never apologized for that fight we had when we were in middle school. Omg my sister is in trouble. I better answer this...

"hello"

"klocky. It's your mom. You left your hoodie here, do you want me to wash it?"

"ummm" (impossibly long pause) "yeah, sure"

"ok then, can you stop by tomorrow after we get home from church?"

"ummm" (impossibly long pause) "no" (shit!)

"ugh, ok. Do you have plans?"

"no, I can be there..."

"oh, ok. I'll see you..."

"well, I thought that..." (impossibly long pause) "umm, I would be hanging out with Sally"

"i thought you guys wernt seeing each other after that fight"

"we're not"

"I always liked Sally"

"ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmi'llseeyoutomorowkbye"

"oh ok, bye"

omg she knows. I'm so busted. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck...

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if you are tempted to pick up the phone, rember that no good can come out of it. Even if there were a family emergency you're not in any position to help. It will be a lot easier to explain why you didn't pick up than it would be to explain why you're acting diferently than usual.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2009, 12:09:50 PM »

LOL
Had pretty much the exact same talk with my mom during a trip. Never again did I repeat this mistake
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2009, 03:03:14 PM »

LOL
Had pretty much the exact same talk with my mom during a trip. Never again did I repeat this mistake

+1    grin grin grin grin
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2009, 03:10:36 PM »

Jack's advice on not eating for a few hours prior is right on too - a full stomach delays the onset and prolongs the comedown.
Grind them up and eat them as is or put them into some OJ and down it. Choking down whole spit slick shrooms results in that time release factor mentioned above.
I really don't know about chowing on a big bowl of beans forty five minutes in though - that's right when things start rolling and food is the weirdest concept in the world to me right then.
Stay hydrated though, and have some healthy munchies at hand for the comedown.


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Understand that farmerjack has a stomach like a goat. I can eat anything anytime and usually am all day long. The fasting is the hard part but once I'm sure the mush's are well on their way,  eating something, especially with some sugar and protein, not only feed the buzz but take away some of this old goat's physical discomfort. You don't need physical discomfort while tripping. Whatever works for you is what's best.

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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2009, 03:16:40 PM »

LOL
Had pretty much the exact same talk with my mom during a trip. Never again did I repeat this mistake

Hahaha, reminds me of the first time my parents found out I used psychedelics, must have destroyed them finding their son gigglling like a mad man, rolling around on the ground, harrasssing strangers with hugs and reassurance, in the middle of the daytime, in the middle of the city, and to think they were just trying to get a bite to eat, and had to walk into that, lol. I tried talking to them, I really did, I remember the look in their eyes too, they didn't know what the fuck was going on, man it was hilarious. Lucky that my Dad used to do LSD, he worked out what was going on fast, hahaha.
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Understand that farmerjack has a stomach like a goat. I can eat anything anytime and usually am all day long. The fasting is the hard part but once I'm sure the mush's are well on their way,  eating something, especially with some sugar and protein, not only feed the buzz but take away some of this old goat's physical discomfort.

Eating doesn't bother my stomach, it's having food in my mouth and chewing and dealing with all those weird textures and then forgetting that I'm eating and going "what in the fuck is all this shit in my mouth? oh yeah, food I need to swallow it. have I chewed it enough? how long have I been chewing anyway?" chew chew chew "what in the fuck is..."
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2009, 03:26:04 PM »

Empty stomachs are the way to go, imo, I too can handle on a full stomach, but from experience, the light feeling of an empty stomach is always better, than a full one, imo. If you were too eat, yoghurt, fruit and nuts are great, as well as lots of water. When your tripping drink some water but as you do so just let it pour all over you as you do so, it feels awesome.
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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2009, 04:14:19 PM »

I usually get hungry after a few hours of tripping hard, so I try to have apples or oranges on hand.  They are the only things I seem to be able to eat.

I remember one decent LSD dose I ate a massive amount of red licorice.  Later, I got to see the inner contents of my stomach swimming inside the toilet.  It was red and purple..."wait wtf puerple!"  grin
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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2009, 04:35:44 PM »

I remember one decent LSD dose I ate a massive amount of red licorice.  Later, I got to see the inner contents of my stomach swimming inside the toilet.  It was red and purple..."wait wtf puerple!"  grin

I eat meat like mad on LSD. A whole pork tenderloin or a chicken. Usually with every condiment in the fridge.
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2009, 10:22:02 PM »

Whatever you do, don't eat warm hot dogs while on shrooms! On one occasion, we took some hot dogs with us to the hills and cooked them over the fire. Honestly, I couldn't tell the difference between the meat I was chewing in my mouth and my tongue. I kept wondering if I had just bitten off my tongue and was eating it. And of course, the dog resembles a penis a little too much to eat in that state. Really, eating probably isn't a good idea if you have a good dose of mushrooms. You could choke. Things can be too confusing. As I was eating my hot dog directly from the cooking stick, I was gnawing away, wondering why my hot dog was so chewy and tough and pretty soon my friends started cracking up because I was eating the stick!

My friend brought oranges and he began to think about how they are called "navel" oranges because they have the little belly-button on them. This made him think that oranges are like the babies of the tree. He began questioning whether they should be eaten and bemoaned the fact that they had been plucked from their umbilical cords. Pretty soon, he hoarded all the oranges and hid them in his sleeping bag so that nobody would eat them. And listening to him, I began to feel rather guilty about eating hot dogs. I wondered if it might be possible to eat rocks. I literally picked up a rock to try to take a bite and my friends luckily stopped me. No shit! That same night I grabbed a hot rock from the fire ring and burnt my hand pretty good. My experience with the hot dogs that night probably has a lot to do with why I don't eat meat today.

And whatever you do, don't drive. The keys to any cars should be in the possession of a sober person. A friend and I went out once with the solid intention not to drive. Needless to say, once tripping, we were getting bad vibes from the spot we were in and decided to drive somewhere else. Bad idea. We ended up very confused in several places, not even sure if we were on a road or not. Things got very weird. And I was intensely paranoid about getting into an accident, running into a cop, going off a cliff, and so on. My friend was driving. I was at his mercy. And we were both on something like five grams of cubensis. Not good. Not good at all!

Stay away from anything remotely dangerous. Bodies of water are bad. Even experienced trippers have gotten into trouble with water. Cars are bad. Fire is bad. Guns are definitely very bad. Knives too. I was tripping with a friend once and another sober friend was making fun of how we were acting. The energy got very dark and my friend got his rifle from his bedroom and threatened to shoot this other friend. Bad. Bad. Bad. I wigged out. I just knew he was going to shoot this guy and I was going to be tripping my balls off, seeing someone shot, and dealing with the repercussions of that. Luckily, nothing happened. But it totally ruined the energy of the trip.

Don't assume that anything you think is sensible or insensible while sober will seem the same when tripping. Your judgment will change. You can affirm all day that you won't drive, that you won't swim, that you won't climb, and or anything like that, and once tripping you might well do all those things. You might feel quite confident or even manic while tripping and may not realize how impaired your judgment is.

Make absolutely certain that you won't have to deal with any unexpected strangers or parents or anyone like that for at least ten hours, just to be safe. If someone else is driving you somewhere, get a solid commitment from them that they won't change plans and decide they need to be somewhere. You need to have a safe, isolated place where you can be perfectly secure for the entire duration of the trip with no worries of having to leave for any reason. You don't want someone deciding to go somewhere and dropping you off at home or in town or whatever.

And you don't want anyone else who is tripping to have access to a car. I have had a fellow tripper freak out and run out of the house where we are tripping and take off in the car with nobody knowing why. This totally ruined our trip and we were so worried about this person that we ended up doing several bad things like using the phone and heading out to look for her. Not good.

Yes, phones should be gone, disconnected, inaccessible. Someone will use one. You should never, ever trip and call. You might say things that you will have a hard time explaining later. Don't use a computer either. On several occasions, I sent some really weird e-mails that I was very embarrassed about later. Communication of any kind with anyone who isn't part of the trip party is a bad idea. It will be obvious that you are tripping and what you are doing is highly illegal and some people might call the cops on you or try to restrain you and take you to the hospital. Even if they don't, you might worry that they will or did already.

And remember, even when you are sure that you will never come down, that you are permanently insane, that you are dying, or whatever, you aren't. Even if you think you are bleeding to death, get the opinion of a sober person before you decide to rush off to the hospital.


And don't trip with anyone who has violent tendencies, especially someone who when tripping might well start waving a knife around and threatening people. I have had this happen. You don't want things like that going on. Nothing can guarantee a bad trip like bad vibes from unstable and dangerous people. No tough guys! That's a rule! I have seen things go south with such guys many times. Some people just shouldn't do drugs.

The best bet is to be somewhere where you have a guarantee of no unexpected visitors. And have a few good, trusted friends there who aren't hostile to the idea of tripping. Have at least one sober person there. Make sure the place you will be tripping in has good vibes. Make sure you don't have any huge worries on your mind or that you have something you have to do right after the trip or even the next day. Be free for at least the duration of the trip and a day after. You probably won't sleep the night after your trip. I always lost a night of sleep from tripping, even if I started tripping in the morning and tried to sleep that night after coming all the way down. Acid is even worse for this.

Music is good, as long as it isn't negative and dark. Dark, angry, or very depressing music can be bad while tripping.

Trip toys can be cool. Lava lamps are actually pretty wild if you are on a good dose. We used to like to turn on the TV, turn off the sound, and put foil over the screen with some holes randomly poked in it. Playing a musical instrument can be amazing, especially something like a didgeridoo. But you won't be very physically coordinated, so a guitar is almost impossible to play. Manual dexterity goes right down the pooper on shrooms.

Nature can be amazing. It can also be very threatening in some places and in some conditions of the weather. Being outside in a forested area in the mountains on a summer evening with a full moon and good weather can hardly be beaten. I LOVE being out like that walking around in the mountains under a full moon while altered! Really, this is better with acid for me.

Just remember that anything that might be mildly threatening and might be perceived as a slight danger while sober can cause intense paranoia while tripping. Avoid anything that might normally make you uneasy.

For experienced trippers who know how they react to these compounds, most of the aforementioned can be nixed, with the exception of cars and weapons, and probably swimming pools, and cops, of course. It is good to be overly cautious your first time or two. But you don't want to get so worried that you ruin your trip worrying if you set everything up right and wondering if you will freak out and stab yourself in the eye or something. In all likelihood, you won't do anything dangerous.


It might be nice to have a sketch pad to draw or jot down thoughts on. You can get incredibly absorbed in drawing on some substances. I sometimes carried a voice recorder while tripping. It can be rather strange to talk into it though. I was whispering to it so quietly that I could hardly make out what I was saying later. When speaking to it, I felt like the whole world could probably hear me.


It can be pretty cool to try to get a different perspective on familiar places and things, like getting down on the carpet and looking across it or looking at the ceiling or running your hands over various objects or exploring the sonic qualities of everything around you. Do things that you might not normally do, things other than just sitting in a chair looking at a TV or something. Just explore. That's what it is about. Anything can be very interesting. I often like to explore the physical properties of common things. I notice things about them that normally evade me. Simple things like inertia that you normally take for granted can be interesting to play with. Magnets might be interesting. Keep changing your perspective. I often find that if I am sitting in one place, if I only turn around or switch chairs, it is like traveling to another universe. Looking at the stars can be incredible.

Do something creative. Play with some modeling clay or something. Make masks. Interacting with animals can be quite amazing and strange, but potentially dangerous. I notice that dogs are often hostile toward me or frightened of me when I am tripping. They seem to know that something is different about me and they don't trust me, even if the animal is normally attached to me and completely trusts me.

Usually though, the trip turns to ideas and philosophical matters and introspection about your life and relationships and the ways in which social pressures alter you. Especially for a young person, thoughts about your identity can be engaging and revealing.

Books full of trippy art can be amazing to look at. But often, if I am on a high dose, I find that I can't recognize what I am seeing on a 2D page, even if it is a photograph. I have sometimes been unable to figure out what I was looking at and when I looked at the same picture again while sober, it was just a picture of a person or something completely obvious.

Maybe the most important thing to do sometime during the peak is to sit in a comfortable chair or lay on the floor or in bed and close your eyes. Visuals are vastly stronger with eyes closed on any hallucinogen. Listening to evocative music with eyes closed can strongly stimulate visions. But you need to make sure you don't have friends that you might constantly worry that they are going to prank you or something which might cause you to keep opening your eyes to see if they are about to give you a wet willy or something.

Of course, music like Pink Floyd is classic for tripping. It can be very transportative. My favorite is Mozart's Requiem. Dreamy music is always good. Loud, aggressive music can be pretty irritating or can even just sound totally cheesy. Metal always sounds cheesy to me when I am tripping. It is almost comical.

But like others said, having a plan often fails. Often what you intended to try just isn't interesting once you are going strong. Maybe something else will draw your attention. Be open to following those whims, within safe limits of course.

Maybe the most interesting thing of all for me is to just contemplate the stupendously surprising fact that I find myself existing.

And hopefully, you will have a trip sitter that won't tease or pester you with questions like, "Dude, what are you seeing now? What trippy thoughts are you thinking? What does it feel like? What does it do if I smack your forehead like this?" You want someone who will just be there and be rather chilled out. And it is best if there are more people than just you and the sitter. When you are discovering altered states with friends, it is amazing. Some of my best memories are of being young and tripping with friends. All kinds of barriers come down and you form intense bonds from the experience. You have amazing adventures together.

But you can ignore what I said if you want. I usually didn't have a sober sitter. But maybe I should have. Usually, the whole group was tripping. Things sure can spiral out of control like that though, especially with a big group. I honestly don't much like sober people while tripping. I am just on a totally different wavelength and only tripping people seem like kindred souls. Sober people seem too hung up and don't understand what you are feeling. When it is just you and a sober person, it can feel quite strange and lonely. Having trip companions is awesome. I personally like to trip alone sometimes too, but I don't recommend that for anyone inexperienced. Tripping alone is a totally different experience.

And don't take a massive dose your first time. I did that and it was a mistake. Well, it was mostly bad because I was coming apart and the people driving decided to head back to town right when I was peaking and dropped my tripping friend and me off to hide in a dark garage while we finished our trip. Just going into town in a car was terrifying. I just knew we would get pulled over. And the dark garage at a friend's parents' house wasn't a good setting. And I ended up having to walk home alone while still very altered. Trying to get the door open quietly, worrying about running into an awake parent, and all that, is very bad vibes.

And whatever you do, don't feed the aliens!

Here, I have something for you to ponder while tripping. You are actually a tube with a grinding apparatus at one end.  grin
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2009, 11:02:54 AM »

I usually get hungry after a few hours of tripping hard, so I try to have apples or oranges on hand.  They are the only things I seem to be able to eat.

yes, I'm always feeling famished at the tail end, and more primitive foods are always best!  fresh fruit, nuts, cheese, wine, they'll taste like they've never tasted before!   grin
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