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« on: October 27, 2009, 12:05:51 PM »

Don't know if this is the right place for a smoke report but here goes. 3lbs wrote:

be sure to tell us how it smokes!!!  daaaaamn daaaaamn daaaaamn

Well, here's the fictionalized account provided by a close friend and an obviously faked photo of which we speak....

I have to say at the outset I was full of excitement and expectation. After all, my grows of the last 2 years had been disastrous, and so I had been reduced to buying in. Not such a bad thing, but there's nothing quite like your own home-grown, even if, in some respects, outsourced herb is stonger or whatever. I'd taken the plants from seed, fed them, watered them, shielded them from too much sun, and rescued them when it unexpectedly rained, hidden them from unwanted eyes... I def get into a relationship with my plants and the first smoke is a bit like making love with someone for the first time  smiley

I'd also planted this on a very casual basis, watching it sprout with some surprise (the seed did not look promising), watching it grow into a weedy-looking excuse with absolutely no smell... but I persevered, what the hell, and slowly but surely came to realize that I might just have something special on my hands. Posts to the Lyc forum suggested this might well be the case (thanks everyone!).

In the last few weeks it began to put out a fruity smell when rubbed and I could begin to see crystal-sign. Take a look at the pic.

After hanging the plant in a drying room for 3 weeks the main branch stems were snappable, so it was time. The weed was very sticky, so the way to go was the grinder, which I tend to use these days anyway. Again, the weed gave off a very delicious sweet strong fruity smell, with some interesting undertones, somewhat piney in a resinous sense.

Some time ago I'd bought my first bong, which I'm inordinately fond of, and knew I should use it only for special occasions. Thus, I loaded it up with the weed, provided myself with some redfruits juice (which also went in the bong) and was ready to go.

I waited until night and made myself comfortable on the terrace overlooking the valley, under the stars. The night was warm and friendly.

Roughly at midnight, I raised the chalice to the stars, made my salutations to whatever, and torched it...

...and as the Chinese say, Ho Lee Fuk....

Everything went ultra quiet, my body was totally relaxed, there was no appreciable body load, and my, by now, completely clear mind seemed to extend to the horizon. And then I began to rise up into it, as the visual field began to gently sparkle and wave. A sense of immense relief and satisfaction filled me. Oh Maria! Sacred wonderful amazing friendly Maria! I was in that fantastic borderland between being high and tripping! And the even more wonderful thing was, there was edge whatsoever. I was ten times higher than a kite and it was smoother than ice-cream. Yay!

I then began to notice a marked cyclic effect. I'd go off into remarkable thoughts and insights, ranging from personal issues which I seemed to be able to see more calmly and with a sense of humour, as well as thoughts of a philosophical bent  to do with life, the universe, and everything. I was completely immersed in them, and then, like coming up for air, I'd rise out of it and find myself clear and free in the night again (the stars, need I say, were awesome?). I experimented with engaging with thought, no prob, and simply resting in amazement, no prob either.

It was about then that I realized something. Something very very good.

I'd only had one toke  daaaaamn

Was this the fabled one-puff that I'd always dreamed about? It seemed so. But of course, a second and third puff followed. Oh my god, this is incredible stuff!  I simply couldn't believe the strength of this. I know I was primed that it could well be good, but then again, I recalled my lessons to simply let it be whatever it was. For the first time in ages I was having CEVs, but unlike the usual, for me, kaleidoscopic patterning, I was seeing well-defined and beautiful landscapes which smoothly sigued into the next one. OEVs were gentle, with a general waving and undulating of the ground and walls, but overlaid with a semitransparent purplish-greenish moving layer. Something like SD but far more subtle.

The taste was fantastic. It had dried well, and there was no harshness. The fruity smell carried over into the taste, especially on the front of my tongue, but there was a tantalising later taste on the back of my tongue which was the piney-resin thing referred to earlier. It didn't last long, and was tantalising as it had a now-it's-here, now-it-isn't quality to it.

I decided to try walking about, no prob, and my bod was fully operational, I even felt energetic. I went into the house, made some tea, chatted to my partner, and did all the usual things.

And this is when I began to realize the vast peculiarity of this herb; despite being completely off my head, this in no way whatsoever interfered with doing whatever I wanted to do in practical terms. I could operate the world as normal, there was no weirdness or self-consciousness, it was as if I was competely straight, and yet as soon as I finished any mundane task I could lean back and whooom! Out with the fairies again. How strange!

I've certainly been able to do this kind of thing on mild weed, but never on a very strong weed like this. In fact, I didn't think I'd even heard of such a thing. Yet a vague memory returned. I seemed to recall reading in CaƱamo, a herb mag, that some Brasilian strains had this effect. Could this then be the answer to puzzle which I would metaphorically give my right gonad to answer: where did this weed come from ?!

I returned to the terrace and the night and the effect simply lasted for ever. After around 3 hours of this ordinary fatigue took over. I went to bed still as high as ever. Going to sleep was an infinitely gentle and easy descent into warmth and comfort.

The next day I felt great in general, altho I did have mild tension in the head, top right. Subsequently, this didn't re-occur.

Later analysis proved that the envelope of this herb was practically instant blast off, and thence straight into space, no messing.

Ah! What a true delight and wonder good Maria is!

Since then I've decided to keep to a lean/no smoking schedule, saving my receptors for this goddess among herbs  grin








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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 01:23:45 PM »

and that, is why some people are nutty about true sativas.

vicariously, it's still good  I am quite happy!

thanks SS!
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2009, 02:39:50 AM »

and that, is why some people are nutty about true sativas.

Well.. I'm convinced! Meanwhile, an appendix to this is that SWIM planted a different seed of unknown provenance, which turned out to be opposite of the above, ie, a strooooong indica... cripes, I didn't know what had hit me. Like being run over by a truck with psychedelic feather dusters in place of wheels, whoah...
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2009, 11:47:21 AM »

sounds delicious afro

did someone who isn't you grow it outside or in?
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 02:41:36 PM »

Beautiful. Homegrown is always the dopest dope.  daaaaamn

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2009, 04:56:11 AM »

Dope indeed!

Norway is the land of mediocre hash, not much pot around here, and I suspect the pot we smoke is what you would refer to as ditch-weed.

I'm feeling sorry for myself.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 03:29:30 AM »

OK, here goes my 3rd attempt to reply!

did someone who isn't you grow it outside or in?

Outside, in a flowerpot, in crap soil. SWIM says the effect could not be improved on, and that makes SWIM begin to wonder about the real benefits of killer soil mixes and additives...

Beautiful. Homegrown is always the dopest dope.  daaaaamn

Heh  smiley  All together ! "Homegrown is alright by me, homegrown is the way it should be, homegrown is good thing, plant that bell and make it ring".

Norway is the land of mediocre hash, not much pot around here, and I suspect the pot we smoke is what you would refer to as ditch-weed.
I'm feeling sorry for myself.

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In the absence of moving to a warmer and perhaps (I actually don't know about Norway) a slightly more tolerant clime, you could always, ooops! Hm, can't say that....

Er, perhaps the Neil Young song reffed above will cheer you up? If you sing it loud and long enough it can even be inspiring   wink
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 03:35:13 AM »

Outside, in a flowerpot, in crap soil. SWIM says the effect could not be improved on, and that makes SWIM begin to wonder about the real benefits of killer soil mixes and additives..

Your joking right Huh
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 03:59:50 AM »

Your joking right Huh

Nope, and that is precisely why I'm wondering...

In short, after 13 years a-growing AND using and experimenting with all kinds of soil mixes SWIM obtained a killer smoke in CRAP soil (there's a long story about why this was done, but let's skip it).

Crap, in this sense, is as follows: the soil was already-used 2-year-old soil from another flower pot. There wasn't enough, so SWIM shoved in some rubble and soil mix that was lying in a corner. There still wasn't enough, so SWIM swept the terrace of dust and crap and shoved that in.

It was horrible, and offended and shocked everything SWIM knew about growing  embarassed

Obviously, if better soil and various boosters had been used etc the plant would have been bigger, definitely, and there may well have been a higher density of resin, no argument.

But the point revolves around the following: the quality could not be improved. SWIM looked at the effect from all angles, and really it is a 10/10 smoke.

Since then SWIM's been looking around on dedicated grow sites and found there is some debate re the qualitative impact of boosters and special mixes etc versus standard grow medium like John Innes no. 3 plus a bit of tomato fert (one-tenth the price of dedicated ferts...).

In other words, the growing question (no pun intended) is to what extent has Babylon-like attitudes invaded the gro-world such that we're being hard-sold stuff that works only as well as other and far cheaper alternatives?   
 
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2009, 04:50:30 AM »

I have seen over ten pounds harvested this year and can't make sense of anything you are saying???
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 08:34:28 AM »

I have seen over ten pounds harvested this year and can't make sense of anything you are saying???

I'm getting lost too, but sure wish 10lbs had come my way  grin
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 10:09:08 AM »

I'm getting lost too, but sure wish 10lbs had come my way  grin

Saw 30lbs last year. shocked evil
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2009, 12:47:03 PM »

I don't smoke anything ever but I'm simultaeneously envious and happy for your success.

A one-hit trip is a monumental achievement.

Just think, you've got the whole rest of the plant to enjoy.

So, did you let it go to seed? Replicating the batch sounds almost mandatory.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2009, 01:03:16 PM »

I don't smoke anything ever but I'm simultaeneously envious and happy for your success.

A one-hit trip is a monumental achievement.

Just think, you've got the whole rest of the plant to enjoy.

So, did you let it go to seed? Replicating the batch sounds almost mandatory.

Would of been a good idea to clone it, is it still alive, I have a friend who has grown his one pet plant outdoors for four years now, and it is as huge as a fucking bus. It is his baby.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2009, 03:45:44 PM »

Hm, I've smoked sativa quite a bit, I never realized it was so strong... Then again, I have never really had a "mild weed" in my life, either. Good to know from now!
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2009, 10:12:23 AM »

Saw 30lbs last year. shocked evil

 grin I don't even know what that looks like!

I don't smoke anything ever but I'm simultaeneously envious and happy for your success.

A one-hit trip is a monumental achievement.

Just think, you've got the whole rest of the plant to enjoy.

So, did you let it go to seed? Replicating the batch sounds almost mandatory.

Thanks FarmerJack. I'm amazed at this plant altho I can't take credit; it was the genetics plus very light care. And yes, am I enjoying this plant. But it's damn hard to keep my hands, well, lips, lungs? off her. Alas! There were just 2 seeds and one plant got retired due to being male. Trouble is that at that point the plant looked so weedy and weak and weird and wobbly and unconvincing that I never imagined that it would be more than an ok smoke. So, no more seed  cry

Hm, I've smoked sativa quite a bit, I never realized it was so strong... Then again, I have never really had a "mild weed" in my life, either. Good to know from now!

That reminds me of another of your posts: there's no next-day muzziness with this one, up early (practically a miracle with me), ready to work and full of energy.

This now makes just the third 10/10 smoke I've ever had. If only I could send, and this is a purely imaginary statment, by some as-yet impossible matter-transfer-system, a complimentary sample to the Lyc cognoscenti... One can dream... 



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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2009, 05:05:41 AM »

Here's the best bit about growing the herb I have learned:

At any given time there is an optimum balance of nutrients for a plant. Once you meet the requirements, any thing else (additives, other super dooper nutrients, juices, etc) will almost certainly be detrimental. Adding 2x doesn't make it grow 2x as fast.

SS your smoke may have been 10/10, but don't forget plant size and vigour, and even crystal production. There might be an 11 on that scale yet.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2009, 04:13:55 PM »

At any given time there is an optimum balance of nutrients for a plant. Once you meet the requirements, any thing else (additives, other super dooper nutrients, juices, etc) will almost certainly be detrimental. Adding 2x doesn't make it grow 2x as fast.
Very true, there is an optimum range for fertilizers and going over this optimum will actually hurt the plant's growth and development. Sometimes we think that "if some is good, then more is better!" But this is not the case.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2009, 06:02:04 AM »

Here's the best bit about growing the herb I have learned:

At any given time there is an optimum balance of nutrients for a plant. Once you meet the requirements, any thing else (additives, other super dooper nutrients, juices, etc) will almost certainly be detrimental. Adding 2x doesn't make it grow 2x as fast.

SS your smoke may have been 10/10, but don't forget plant size and vigour, and even crystal production. There might be an 11 on that scale yet.

Indeed, altho my 10/10 was for qualitative effect it was definitely a lot lower on the quantitative scale, maybe 6-7, nothing special at all. Heh, the other night SWIM decided to smoke the remnants of a small bong, just to relax sort of thing, really not expecting anything... 5 mins later SWIM found himself having to do some deep breathing and meditation to try to move from being wiped out in the surf to surfing the roller...

Very true, there is an optimum range for fertilizers and going over this optimum will actually hurt the plant's growth and development. Sometimes we think that "if some is good, then more is better!" But this is not the case.

LOL, you said it. In SWIM's v early growing days he did kill a plant due to poor management of this type, still, you live and learn  smiley
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2009, 04:40:01 PM »

Cool trip.  afro
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