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 Favorite smoking herbs?

[ST1R]

Other than ganja, what are everyones favorite smoking herbs?
The little lady is job hunting, so she is off the herb for a bit an we have been trying a few herbs for her to use as a carrier for exactly what you think
So far we have tried,
Wormwood - Tastes exactly like you'd think
Salvia O. - Not bad, pretty neutral
Catnip - Meh
Peppermint - The best so far but the menthol can be a little overwhelming
Hops - Blech
I was looking at mullen but it was blended to fine to mess with.

Any recommendations? Flavor being the most important thing.

[Papyrifera]

If flavour is the most important thing for you, then I would suggest trying damiana leaf, Tagetes lucida (mexican marigold) flowers, Perovskia (Russian sage) leaf or even shredded sassafras bark. I am also a big fan of blue lotus (Nymphaea caerulea) and sacred lotus (Nelumbo nucifera), of which the Nelumbo is a little tastier. Labrador tea has a nice gentle pine flavour, and bearberry is a pretty nice smoke. Calea zacatechichi is nice when mixed in moderation, but on its own tastes bitter.

[luc]

My favorite smoke is datura flowers, taste pretty good and feel similar to mj, some times I even mix in bud from ditch weed for flavor when I am hard up.

Catnip didn't do much for me, and it tasted much worse than it smelled.

Salvia is really interesting, but has never in any way been a fun experience for me.

I got a sample of some 15x blue lotus extract with an order once, it made a good tea...

I haven't really tried smoking any other herbs really, except some parsley I mashed into some resin so i could smoke it w/o clogging my pipe.

[foreward]

lol. I actually have a hobby of smoking everything in the spice cabinet. Some, most or even all of these might be placebo:

Catnip, smoke a lot and you get stupid. Like your IQ drops. It's a waste of time, i'll admit, but not bad for shits and giggles.
Nutmeg (and nutmeg+clove), slight stone, but a lot of drymouth. Nothing interesting.
Coriander, this one gives a very mild pot-like stone and a mild headache.
Cedar-leaf oil, gives a weird body rush (not a "high" really at all), but can't be that healthy being that it's like 90-some-percent ß-thujone, tastes like hell.
Salvia-D, we all know the effects. Nonetheless, I find this one a bit disappointing, hard to integrate and generally frustrating.

[ST1R]

Nah. luc/forward, this isn't for psychoactive effect. This is purely a matter of flavor. Its preferred that there be no psychoactive effect. We already have an ingredient for the desired effect we just need a carrier for her to smoke it with

Salvia O. was my lazy way of saying "garden sage" not to be confused with S.D..

Thanks papy but if you think we're gonna smoke Calea Yuk! After trying the tea, years ago, I'm terrified of ever venturing back. I haven't tried Daminia in a long time but I remember it tasting subtle. I'll try the Russian sage for sure. Its quite commonly used in landscaping around here, including my grandparents home, but the recent frost/snow may have destroyed them. I assume its the leaves that are smoked and not the flowers? The Mexican marigold sounds like its worth a shot as well. Can you describe the taste of those herbs at all? Ya know, wormwood tastes like licorice tea, peppermint tastes like peppermint and menthol, etc.

[psilocyborg]

The only way I can describe the flavor of Mexican tarragon is that it tastes exactly the way marigold yellow looks.  Otherwise, kinda sweet and round, herby and flowery at the same time... ish.

[Papyrifera]

Thanks papy but if you think we're gonna smoke Calea Yuk! After trying the tea, years ago, I'm terrified of ever venturing back. I haven't tried Daminia in a long time but I remember it tasting subtle. I'll try the Russian sage for sure. Its quite commonly used in landscaping around here, including my grandparents home, but the recent frost/snow may have destroyed them. I assume its the leaves that are smoked and not the flowers? The Mexican marigold sounds like its worth a shot as well. Can you describe the taste of those herbs at all? Ya know, wormwood tastes like licorice tea, peppermint tastes like peppermint and menthol, etc.

Calea tea is much more bitter tasting than smoking it, IMO. It is the leaves of russian sage that are nice to smoke, as you assumed. Even freeze-dried leaves are still smokeable. Eucalyptol (as in eucalyptus) is the main oil in russian sage, so it has a nice cooling effect and serves to open and cleanse the bronchial passages. Mexican marigold tastes a little tangy with sweet citrus notes, it is one of the most pleasant tasting plants to smoke, I like to add it many smoking blends for flavour. If you can't get the mexican marigold, you can substitute with the annual "gem" marigolds commonly sold in garden centers, eg. lemon gem or tangerine gem:


Definately give damiana another shot. I don't know how to describe the scent, it is pretty unique, but it is one of the tastiest smokes out there and is wonderful to cook with too, I used to add it to stir fries. Good fresh damiana has a potent aroma, if it is old it looses some of the scent.

[The_MadScientist]

I second Daimana.  Mixes well with other flavors, and it is significantly lighter and less harsh than tobacco or cannabis. Often times, when you purchase the herb, it may be a little over-dried for smoking, though, making it burn excessively hot.  Throw in orange peels, apple slices, or just a few drops of water to give some moisture back to it.

Daimana does have a minor effect.  Its kind of like smoking way too little pot.  However, when mixing pot with daimana, a slight synergy is noticed.

[lq]

i've smoked 50/50 mix of damiana and rose petals in my pipe. it was fantastic. might of been because my day was shit and that was the first thing that went right, but i was euphoric for a while afterwards. rose petals added a sweet/sour taste to the smoke which was really pleasant to inhale (:

[DrYRHead]

Has on tried Sacred Lotus smoke yet? I has gone well with catnip, garden sage, and skull cap herb.

[x]

The biggest problem for me with smoking herbs is that they aint marijuana, and the more you admit to trying other herbs, the more it looks like you can't score marijuana, lol . Now if I could only run out of pot, I may try some of these herbs, but its impossible, hahahaha . Pot, pot, wonderful pot . All those alternative herb ads in high times are funny, I actually think they are feeder drugs for youngsters who cant score pot yet, and this is a bad thing if you ask me, its introducing marijauana to the wrong people, its pushing it on kids, these alternative herbal smokes, and these kids are probably from reasonable middle class homes, because us ghetto kids had pot everywhere since we were babies hahaha.

[Papa Doobie]

they smoke plenty of weed in the suburbs too, trust me.

I've used damiana as an alternative to tobacco in spliffs, not bad if you don't like tobacco.

[x]

they smoke plenty of weed in the suburbs too, trust me.

Because of those evil gateway drugs like catnip and sage, lol

[ST1R]

I'm not concerned that it looks as though one couldn't score herb. My GF has drug tests and we have tried using a few herbs for carriers for what she wished to smoke. We aren't looking for a psychoactive herb, just something with a nice flavor.

Otherwise the stuff they sell in high times and the like is bullshit however many years ago one did try an herbal hash substitute that really had an effect. The stuff tasted like garlic pizza but definitely had a noticeable effect. Anymore anything that works is more likely a carrier for a misc blend of cannabiniods.

[DrYRHead]

Extracts of herbs can have a more notable effect then the plain herbs, of course.  Wild dagga, skull cap herb, sacred and blue lotus extracts upon sage, catnip or dammiana have worked well.

[Papa Doobie]

indeed, one has heard that lotus extract is potent, although  one has never tried it firsthand

[Papyrifera]

There's this stuff called "three-lotus paste" that in one's experience stacked up with the finest indica bubble hash. Very relaxing!