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 Cooking with Rye Bread

[lovemaster]

So a friend of mine is interested in chemistry, but i am unaware of his skill level.  He claims he could, if it were legal, grow ergot on rye bread and then be able to synthesize something variably good, depending on the skills he actually has, of which he claims to have some.  The tools he mentioned included alcohol and citric acid, and i assume there should be more he hasnt mentioned.  As far as very general tek info, How far can one get with rye bread and limited skills without killing someone, and how difficult is it actually to come up with something, anything, truly safe and special?  Are there any harmful precursors/biproducts to be especially removed or avoided?  I'm interested for harm reduction info.

[Dr. Suess]

I you're interested in harm reduction, and he is a novice, the answer is NOT to attempt baking anything w/ rye bread. It will take some skill to get good "toast" from this bread. I don't know a whole lot but I do know that only a few frequencies of light are not harmful to the bread stuff.

[luc]

This REALLY isn't something amatures should be attempting.  An amature will almost certainly fail IMO.

[ST1R]

Simply put, your friend is delusional. 
LSD is one of the most difficult synths out there afaik. There are many recipes that can be found online that use rye bread, HBWR seeds, fosters beer and other ridiculous things, however one would have to be epicly stupid to ingest any of these concoctions believing them to LSD.

If LSD was easier to make it would be more available. At any given time there are only something like 3 LSD chemists in the world. That alone should tell you something about your friends ego.

[lovemaster]

he never said itd be lsd, and i gave up on ever having that unless i build a proper clinical setting for myself.  but hes confident he can come with something.  im thinking a worthy ergot alkaloid could be extracted

[foreward]

As far as I know, the Salem witch incident was not due to spoiled bread, but rather rye which was infected prior to havest. I think if this person tried this, he'd end up with a lot of contamination, and no ergot, unless this person had an ergot culture. Then it would make more sense to use sterile rye grain in a controlled setting using established methods than who knows what conditions of rye bread.

Looking into ergot myself, ergot is pretty finicky about temperature conditions, but I don't remember specifics.

[fat bunnies]

If you want to extract ergoline alkaloids I'd suggest using morning glory seeds or HBWR; have you ever read the gigantor LSA thread

http://www.lycaeum.org/newforums/index.php/topic,4167.0.html

[lovemaster]

the guy says he has had a loaf buried in the ground for w hile and is thinking about pulling it out before it gets cool, i referred him to the internet

[tryp2fun]

the guy says he has had a loaf buried in the ground for w hile and is thinking about pulling it out before it gets cool, i referred him to the internet

Ergot only infects living rye flowers, not rye bread.  He might be able to get some penicillin from moldy rye bread, but no lysergic acid!

[foreward]

the guy says he has had a loaf buried in the ground

this is just getting weirder and weirder.

[fat bunnies]

Are you trying to cook Rúgbrauð? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BAgbrau%C3%B0

"Rúgbrauð is an Icelandic straight rye bread, dark and dense, usually rather sweet, traditionally baked in a pot or steamed in special wooden casks by burying it in the ground near a hot spring. Modern rúgbrauð is usually made in a square baking pan. The bread is crustless, dark and very dense and keeps for a long time. It is often served with butter, mutton paté, hangikjöt (smoked lamb), or with pickled herring. Dry rúgbrauð would be ground and mixed with buttermilk to form a kind of porridge. Stale rúgbrauð is often soaked, then made into brauðsúpa (bread soup) - that is, simmered with raisins and flavorings (usually lemon) and served hot with whipped cream as a dessert.

Excessive consumption of this bread is said to cause flatulence, earning it its nickname þrumari which roughly translates as "thunderbread".

There are, however, varieties of the traditional rye bread with wheat and whole grain added to make it less dense, but also called rúgbrauð. These varieties tend to be less heavy than the traditional straight rye variety and more similar to the modern Danish rugbrød or German pumpernickel.

Rye, produced in Denmark and exported to Iceland, became the predominant cereal in Icelandic cuisine in the early modern period after a trade monopoly was instituted by the king of Denmark in 1602, remaining in vigor until 1786."

[luc]

I'd not ingest any of his creations.  His 'ergot cultures' will at the very less leave you hugging a toliet.  He obviously doesn't know what he is doing.

[lovemaster]

what people come up with.

[farmerjack]

a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing

[lovemaster]

just talked to this guy again; i let him know he was chasing the same chemical as with hbw and that he should use straight rye not rye bread.. 

he said he has been "successful"  using 'wheat bread and everclear'

[foreward]

wow, dude. i'm starting to wonder if this is trolling... my apologies if not, but seriously.

[Papa Doobie]

just talked to this guy again; i let him know he was chasing the same chemical as with hbw and that he should use straight rye not rye bread.. 

he said he has been "successful"  using 'wheat bread and everclear'

I think "this guy" should maybe stay away from drugs for a little while, his own "successes" included

[luc]

just talked to this guy again; i let him know he was chasing the same chemical as with hbw and that he should use straight rye not rye bread.. 

he said he has been "successful"  using 'wheat bread and everclear'

He is an idiot, and you are moreso if you actually believe him.  This is either trolling or the rambling of a moron, either way I am done with this thread.

[lovemaster]

just an true report from the field, dude.  i suspect he may have been 'successful' in poisoning himself but obviously not isolating any visionary chemical.