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 Dreamtime Tincture

[Papyrifera]

We recently prepared and tested a new tincture called “Dreamtime” looking to enhance dream vividness, lucidity and recall.

We used:
2 pinches of blue lotus
2 pinches of papaver somniferum
1 large pinch of calea zacatechichi
1 leaf of henbane
The herbs were tinctured in 40% vodka for several weeks and charged using a celestite crystal. After decanting, the tincture was diluted with an equal volume of henbane flower essence prepared by soaking fresh henbane flowers in water for two days in a sunny location. This yielded a total of 700 mL of tincture, quite a lot!

We tested the tincture out using 7 drops each, before bedtime. The smell was deliciously sweet, and at first the tincture tastes like candy, but with a vile bitter aftertaste. Reminded me a little of cough medicine actually. There was an immediate heavy and drowsy feeling from the tincture, but we continued to read a little before sleeping (I was reading Carlos Castenada’s “The Art of Dreaming” as a primer). Sleep came over us easily.

I had several vivid dreams that night, none of them lucid but I could recall the details easier than normal. In my first dream, I was driving around India with my parents in a van. We had found a place to park and camp overnight. I smoked a bowl of weed in the back of the van, and not long after I finished all these police cars were driving by with sirens flashing. They weren’t after us, but I got really paranoid that they would smell the weed and bust us.

In my second dream, I was in a large complex of small motel units in the parking lot. A lot of different friends of mine were arriving, and we were setting up little dome structures and chill-out spaces in the parking lots under sunny skies.

My third dream, I was in Las Vegas with a couple friends. We were in front of this giant industrial complex, due to take a tour of a special indoor fruit-growing facility. It was like a strange kind of carnival, because each person on the tour would be given a different costume and allowed to play around in a different part of the fruit-growing facility. The man who owned the building was in front of us, dressed up in a white tuxedo and wearing oversize black leather cowboy boots and a white cowboy hat. He was doing a funny song and dance, explaining the tour to us with some quick heel-toe action. My friend Star was to be the first to be let in. He was given a monkey suit and told that he was going to be allowed to see the indoor coconut palm section. My monkey-suited friend was laughing in the owner's face, telling him that he was showing us all his secrets, and that we would be able to steal his ideas and create our own indoor fruit-growing facility. Weird stuff!

Normally my dream recall sucks, but I was able to remember all these dreams a couple days later. We noticed a definate lethargic after effect in the morning. I initially woke up at 8:30 AM, but kept falling back asleep and didn’t actually get out of bed until around 9:30.

Due to the potent herbs in this combination, this tincture is recommended to use only before bedtime. Do not operate heavy machinery. Do not use on consecutive days, as the henbane would build up in the system and a tolerance would develop to the poppies. We may experiment with higher dosages in the future, but even 7 drops was potent.

[DrYRHead]

Take care with that henbane.

[farmerjack]

Papy,

you're slowing down old-timer. I can remember when.........on sunday mornings my first stop was to read your galaxy bending trip reports from the night before.

welcome to the club next stop - rocking chair and cigars.

[whateveryouwantmetobe]

I don't know how much you are willing to experiment with the concept of dream enhancment, but molecules that stimulate growth hormone release can up your sleeping & dreaming a notch... probably more along the lines of what you are looking for.  

This guy is pretty emphatic about it (I'd suggest looking for other reports especially on bodybuilding forums if really interested):

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=111218221

The CJC-#### peptide series (longer acting analogs of your body's own growth hormone releasing hormone [GHRH]) is what you would be looking for...

There's two forms available online, CJC-1295 which is a very long-acting version that you take a large (a few mg) doses of and lasts a few days in your body, although it has reduced potency which makes it less bang for the buck.  OR

CJC-1293 which is a shorter acting version (only an hour or two) but you take smaller doses (50-100 microg tops) and in my opinion this is the route to go, especially if you are just looking for enhanced sleep.  It is also cheaper because it doesn't have the added chemical stuff to make it longer acting.

Lots of people report feeling much more well-rested after taking these things, regardless of age.  Then there's those who maximize its effect to gain weight & muscle...

But I think this could really help you push some boundaries if you want to.

[Papyrifera]

Take care with that henbane.

Indeed. The amounts used in this tincture are small, but one has noticed even minute doses of henbane have a strong effect on dreaming. Of all the deadly nightshades, henbane is the only one I have worked with.

you're slowing down old-timer. I can remember when.........on sunday mornings my first stop was to read your galaxy bending trip reports from the night before.

welcome to the club next stop - rocking chair and cigars.

Well I'm a quarter century old now... practically senile. But don't worry, I still have some trips in me. I can look forward to resembling that burnt-out acid casualty from the 60's. Wild hair with a little bald spot appearing, and a long, scraggly salt-and-pepper beard. You will see me at music festivals, wearing all tie-dye and sporting a tie-dye cape. I don't talk much, but just dance around with a cracked grin on my face. At least I'll be having a good time 

Bio, thanks for that info. The CJC-1293 interests me due to its short duration, enhancing the quality of sleep is definately something I need. Tend to wake up many times throughout the night, normally I need around 10 hours sleep to feel fully rested, but have been getting more like 7 hours of broken sleep. Have been relying on yerba mate (perennially), kratom and rhodiola (these two can only be taken for 3 days in a row, then take a break) to be alert and focused through the day. I don't know much about these peptides you mentioned, do you think they are safe for semi-regular use? Does a tolerance build up?

[whateveryouwantmetobe]

Regarding tolerance I don't think there is any unless we start talking your body mass index.  That is, if you weigh a lot / have lots of fat you will need larger doses versus skinny people needing less.  This is the way most peptides work though.  You may have a slight adjustment phase for the first day or two of using because you just are not used it its effect.  I found myself pretty sore the first few days (but I workout a lot too and this needs to be accounted for). 

You may find it very useful if you are having sleep trouble.  I personally cannot do it for more than a few days because I start having dreams that are too intense.  As in bothersome, it is strange.  It should be safe for semi-regular use.  If you look around the bodybuilding forums (professionalmuscle.com is a good one but you need to register first!) you can find stories of people taking probably a lot more than what you would want and on more regular bases.  A lot of time they even combine it with other growth hormone secretagogues to get even greater growth hormone release.  It is a bit overkill in my opinion but hey if they want to be 250-300 pounds solid muscle without growing up as a football player with perfect genetics, well, a lot of people are going to need some serious help to get there.   The point is, I haven't read about any GHRH-induced deaths so it seems to be pretty safe. 

You can get GHRH from doctors too (sermorelin I believe), but what they would give you a script for is the native form your body produces which gets enzymatically inactivated real quickly in your bloodstream after injection.  You would have to use that IV to get good effect (don't).  The CJC-1293 is slightly modified to resist the particular enzyme and makes it much more useful, ie, you can just do regular subQ injections and it will work.  Some sites call it just GRF (1-29) or modified GRF (1-29) I think, you would want to look into it.  GHRH and GRF are the same thing, GRF is an older name in the literature (Growth hormone releasing factor). 

[Papyrifera]

Thanks bio 

[photon]

did you have any grogginess when waking up? peace

[Papyrifera]

Yes, it can cause grogginess and lethargy the morning after, particularly at higher doses (eg 2 mL).