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 LSA Extraction from Morning Glory

[Lysenergy]

Can anyone help me out here?!?! About 6 years ago, the first time I encountered this website, my imagination began running wild about a "perfectly legal" drug that is easily made in the kitchen of anyones' home. My quest led me to Morning Glory. Not only is it easy and satifying to grow, but it also contains a very potent punch. I tried many things, boiling the mushed seeds in alcohol (burning 5% of my eyebrows off after I reached a boiling point.) At another point I let the mush seep in Segrams for a week in a dark place. But this didn't work. Does anyone have a sound solution to this dilemma? LSA was indeed a trip the first time I experienced it, it hit me harder than LSD (dosage, I'm sure). But if a beautiful morning glory has this power, I would like to experience it more without some of the worst nasuea I've experienced in my life. Any suggestions?! TIP FROM THE PRO: Changing the perception of drugs starts with anybody being able to create one potent and easily consumable substance from the comfort and privacy of their kitchen (Food, plants, nothing more complex or "scary" than alcohol. Find that my friends, you have a revolution!  HELP!

[tikimonkey]

erowid Morning Glory
erowid lsa
blue light lsa
Major Alkaloid Content in the Morning Glory seedsd-Lysergic acid amide (ergine) = 0.035%
d-Isolysergic acid amide (isoergine) = 0.005%
Chanoclavine = 0.005%
Elymoclavine = 0.005%
Lysergol = ---%
Ergometrine* = 0.005%
Total alkaloids = 0.060%
that was from

this one it might help
or just try theGIGANTOR LSA thread

[RenderOne]

quote:
apparently my friend in Argentina is trying the experiment. She told me that she put 800 seeds, powdered (she has a GREAT coffee grinder), in 2 cups of cold distilled water, for 10 minutes. Then filtered the water, and proceeded to drink it VERY SLOWLY.  

[Hocus Pocus]

I'm not sure you can avoid the nausea.  I have pulveised the seeds to a fine yellow powder and have soaked them in water and drank it all but it did not alleviate the as and sickness.  But I have found than 45 minutes to an hour later all is well.

It is a very nice trip.  I have also found that considering doing it again has a great psychological barrier due to the nausea.

[Ob1]

Ob1AM

thats what i call it

no nausea, no heaviness

just the trip

simplified-

needed- 1 bottle carbonated OZONEated spring water.
      - 1 concentrated lemon juice
      - seeds  (700 ololiuqui)

grind seeds fine fine

pour in COLD spring water
little bit enough to wet and bubble
stir add more stir add more etc.

the idea is to keep the bubbling action going as long as possible (carbonation)
it may take 1/2 hour to fill the glass

the globules of fat will be scrubbed from the seed powder and rise with the bubbles.

scoop them off the top with a spoon

that should get rid of most of the nausea

you should get a couple of tespooons of fatty globules, if not it may be too thick or syropy gooey whatever to free the globles, try adding more spring water

anyway

when the cold water globules float and are removed take the glass of water and seed mush and put it in a jar or something with hot water in it- do not mix the two but let the water&seed mush heat up to slightly warmer than 80f 27c this will cause the drink to foam

foam like a beer head

this may also bring up another bunch of globules so if its not too hot they can also be scooped off the top (another tspoon full)

now the globs are gone
    the gas (don't breathe) is gone

stir, add lemon juice squeeze plastic bottle of juice into drink until milkish colour forms (maybe an ounce) stir again let sit for as long as you want 10 minutes works but its cloudy let it sit for 1,2 hours and it will clear up.

pour the juice off of the seed mush

throw seed mush away and the juice (lemonaide) is Ob1AM

i repeat no sickness

ps merry christmas

[Brilliant Anonymous]

Not again.

Eat the seeds.  Do the purge.  They're the ticket and that's the ride.

If that's a real problem, try LSD.  It's superficially similar.  

[DrYRHead]

The purge never hit one from MG seeds, but it sure did from the HBWR seeds. Either way a cold water extraction should get rid of most, but not all, of the emedic crap in the seeds' shells.

Herbs that can help with nausea include, ginger root, MJ, and too a lesser extent pepper mint. Some take dramamine, but I fear that that could adversly effect such a trip.

[moecat]

Perhaps there needs to be a comparitive analytical analysis of seed shells versus whole seed to investigate this theory of the "emetic crap" being in the seed shells.  As it is, there's no existing analytical data to support that concept.

[moecat]

quote:Originally posted by tikimonkey:
erowid Morning Glory
erowid lsa
blue light lsa
Major Alkaloid Content in the Morning Glory seedsd-Lysergic acid amide (ergine) = 0.035%
d-Isolysergic acid amide (isoergine) = 0.005%
Chanoclavine = 0.005%
Elymoclavine = 0.005%
Lysergol = ---%
Ergometrine* = 0.005%
Total alkaloids = 0.060%

 

[toaster]

ob1,
your extraction tech sounds almost genius.  are you fucking with us, or does that really work?  It seems like the best and safest extraction method...how exactly does the carbonation remove the soaps?

[Ob1]

The trickyest part as the story goes is to slowly add the carbonation and stir till the bubbling stops then add a little more let it bubble and stir when flat add a little more then stir while it bubbles till flat, keep doing this a little at a time for a while.

Eventually when diluted enough to seperate more fluid than gooid the fat globules will seperate and rise likely because of some bubbles attached to them, so , you scoop them off the top.

You see, carbonation has to wick out of the liquid by transferring to a solid from the carbonated liquid, believe it or not the only reason that champagne bubbles is from the dust in the glass.

Warm it to 80 degrees f in a later step and it bubbles again even though the carbonation is flat. The bubbles this time are much smaller, perhaps indicating they are not carbon dioxide.
 THe thing is ozone and cyanide make cyanate
(i think) which is relatively safer than cyanide and coincidently cyanide and possibly cyanate boil and vaporize at 78-80 degrees F.

The small amount of ozone the water can hold doesn't seem to come out in the first step.

I don't know for sure if cyanoglucosides are in there or if not why it would boil at 80 degrees but it does and i think if you skip this step you don't get reched sick but you do get the lethargy the lead body lay down in bed low blood oxidation cellular acidosis type feelings but hey as a plus it might remove the lead from your body.

 cyanide loves metals especially the iron in your blood cells changing them from oxygen using to fermenting causing acidosis.