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 Butane extraction

[gorfehttimrek]

Whatever is being used doesn't seem to leave any residue on clean glass.  I performed a test with the tube empty and let the butane evap as normal an there was nothing left in the plate afterwards. 

 

[Jah PM]

From theoretical knowledge, hash making theory, as well as my own experience with butane extractions, I've come up with an untested way to potentially increase yield.

If one caught the butane as it came out in a separation funnel, and then allowed this to settle (butane's boiling point is -0.5 degrees C, so this should be easy to do in most areas with a decent winter), they could empty the yellow THC-laden layer on a brownie tray as per the usual butane extraction method, and then pour the "clean" butane back through their herb in order to ensure a higher percentage of the THC is extracted. Alternatively they could pour this recycled butane through a separate, already prepared tube of fresh herb. This procedure could be repeated until the butane is completely THC-laden.

[thenoid]

If i can find the link, ill post a set up that included 7 stainless steel tubes, all of which were frozen in advance, connected with pipes and valves, so that you used one can of butane to extract 7 tubes worth of material.  Worked very well, with a casserol dish full of honey like goo as a reward! Very intricate for a stoner.

[ST1R]

Noid remove your product names. Source rule.
I know, I know....

[IsomerFairy69]

How do you use this stuff? Just dip a needle into the honey oil and heat it with a lighter and inhale with a straw or something? Or do you soak a small amount of herb in it? What about oral/sublingual?

Edit: rgr, http://www.onlinepot.org/hash/hashoil.htm has a variety of techniques.

[ST1R]

How do you use this stuff? Just dip a needle into the honey oil and heat it with a lighter and inhale with a straw or something? Or do you soak a small amount of herb in it? What about oral/sublingual?

Seek and ye shall find www.google.com

[thenoid]

sorry 

eiderdown, concerning the oral route, try putting 2 or 3 drops on a cracker with peanut butter. Bake for 18-20minutes no hotter than 200/C

and dont forget bt's

[Jah PM]

How do you use this stuff? Just dip a needle into the honey oil and heat it with a lighter and inhale with a straw or something? Or do you soak a small amount of herb in it? What about oral/sublingual?

Edit: rgr, http://www.onlinepot.org/hash/hashoil.htm has a variety of techniques.

We would scoop some up with a safety pin. Then we would use a torch lighter to heat the safety pin *above* where the oil was, which would cause the oil to drip onto a bowl we'd packed.

[gorfehttimrek]

set aside a usual helping of material for one session from the material you are packing into the device before sealing it.
(this seems to be a good starting place, adjust recipe to taste)
Finely powdered material works best

If you use my pictured example of oregano as a guide, and warm the plate gently(never too hot for fingers)... when the moisture evaporates the oils will be just the right consistency to stick to the powdered material.  Depending on the thickness and potency of the resulting granular powder you can add as much or little as you need to other material or use it straight


this method gets every last drop of the sticky stinky oil onto a substrate that is useable and storable without being overly messy or difficult to access.

Love,
Kermit 

[pharmanimal78]

For kicks I tapped a hole in a soda bottle lid & filled the bottle nearly full w/ water. Injected butane into the hole to form an NP layer above the water. The bottle handled the pressure easily.

So, has anyone tried a liquid phase extraction of, say, sulfuric acid digested plant matter?

Also of interest: Liquid phase butane extraction of alkaloid freebases.

[tryp2fun]

For kicks I tapped a hole in a soda bottle lid & filled the bottle nearly full w/ water. Injected butane into the hole to form an NP layer above the water. The bottle handled the pressure easily.

So, has anyone tried a liquid phase extraction of, say, sulfuric acid digested plant matter?

Also of interest: Liquid phase butane extraction of alkaloid freebases.

Since the boiling point of butane is -0.5 ^oC, you would need to work fast or keep the system pressurized.

[pharmanimal78]

It seems applying intense thumb action to the bottle cap's hole does suffice. 

[gorfehttimrek]

let's not give those ingenious fools any more fodder for their fire.

Getting liquid butane on your skin for more than a few seconds or over a large area of skin may cause blistering or even frost bite.

You have been warned.  Now, let the Darwinian challenges begin! 

[farmerjack]

Kermit,

I've had reasons to put drywall screws in PVC, plastic, etc over the years and find that the holes get sloppy very quickly.

Seeing that your tek seems to be under considerable pressure sloppy equates to mess and waste.

I just returned from the garage where I predrilled and then put allen screws through both cap and pipe. The result was a beautiful tight joint that shows no sign of significant degradation after 10 cycles in and out. Two allen screws opposite each other at a minimum and three in a triangle pattern would be better.

Don't tell me high school shop class was a waste!

[gorfehttimrek]

I can't tell you that just.   BUT - I was wasted in High School shop class.


The "leaky" tendency you refer to seems to be getting better with age, not worse.   I don't think I have any sizeable leaks from the screwholes.  I had some leaks around the edge of the upper cap, but with use (and lots of gunk build up) it seems to be sealing better now than when it was new.  I ain't fixin' it if it ain't broke buddy.


Kermit

[3lbs]

on a smaller scale they sell these stainless steel turkey basters, with the screw on tips. you can take the rubber squeezer off, fill it with herb, then put a coffee filter or stainless steel screen on the big end, and use those screw on o-rings to affix it. the butane can fits perfectly in the smaller end. there's some photo examples out there.

nice write up kermit!

[SaTaN]

I like the write up, but as other's have suggested you should stray from the PVC with the butane. It isn't all PVC that reacts negatively with the butane either as it depends on the grade. Is it debatable??? Yes. Thing is that some places claim that it does react and some don't, and not just people on forums like these but institutes. I will have to look for the references. Point is that stainless steal or GLASS would work about the best. The stainless steal like the PVC can not be seen through though, whereas the glass you can watch the butane go through the product. Now obviously most people can't blow or make their own glass extractor and would have to buy one, which this thread was not about. But if one were to choose to perform this extraction and take the time to get very pure butane, then a piece of stainless steal pipe seems like a good investment as well. Is it worth the risk to you to ingest what might be dissolved pieces of PVC just because it is debatable??? Go with stainless steal, no doubt whatsoever that there will be any negative effects. OH and from personal experience not just what institutes come up with, if you use fine threaded PVC, for say an end cap, is where you will see if any of the damage is occurring. I have witnessed first hand the dissolving of the threads as they are so fine and makes a lot of surface area for the solvent to touch. If it can do that it might just be stripping some off the walls as it goes down... Again all debatable. More of a "If you have something that gets the job done right and doesn't hurt you, why waste your time with something that also works, but 'might' hurt you???" sorta thing. I don't know about you guys but I am not a big fan of mights and maybes, especially when it comes to my health.